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doohansen
doohansen
3574. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 4:15 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 4:15 PM EST
"i hope you guys are right.. i sure would hate to feel this way all the way through the 9 months.. that would suck ! & it would make me really unhappy & bitc*y. i'm almost 9 wks. "
Only 3 more weeks to go babycakes and it will be smooth sailing! Go ahead and pinch him and kick him in his sleep (he did this to you) and give him some books to read about how to be supportive right now and throughout the pregnancy. It helped me (the revenge part) after I explained, my hubby was ok with it. The books help them understand what you are going through and warn them not to say anything stupid like "boy are you hormonal today" or something else equally offensive. Or, it will explain to him why you just hit him over the head with a cast iron skillet!
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doohansen
doohansen
3575. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 4:20 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 4:20 PM EST
"LOL!!! Nipple Nazis!!! I love it!!! My nephew's girlfriend had a baby in June - he's just the cutest thing!!! I was going to say little, but he's not little!! He's huge!! I'm going to start calling him Bam-Bam pretty soon!! Anyway, she was pretty scared about breastfeeding & talked to me about it one day. I pretty much told her the same thing, only I called them the "breast-feeding Nazis" that come in & make you feel bad for not choosing to do that with your baby. If you don't want to do it, don't let anyone change your mind. Your baby will be no less healthy, feel no less love from you, if you don't breast feed. Mothers, especially new ones, shouldn't guilted into doing something that they don't want to do. They are nervous & self-conscious enough."
La Leche came out because my 1st wouldn't latch on. They had me all stressed and horrified, but I couldn't get food into her for 4 days! I felt like I was failing myself and my baby. The rural health nurse came out the next day, gave Brynna a bottle and lo and behold she latched on and never stopped breast feeding (never taking a bottle again) until 13 mos when I had to stop because I was preggers with my 2nd. Those who are obsessive about anything should stay away from new moms. We have enough to deal with (sitting on ice packs, freaking about taking that first BM and tearing your stitches, no sleep, hormones etc...) ITM Just do what feels right to you and don't let ANYONE tell you diff. Remember the baby is YOURS so f&^{1}amp; them if they don't agree.
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msbuffy
msbuffy
3576. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 4:38 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 4:38 PM EST
"i'm right there with you on the feelings.. * shake head * i feel evil towards him & his jollyness. i really cant stand it & the fact that he sleeps so well really eerks my nerves. sometimes i thought of poking him so he will wake up because i'm awake...lol !! i cant find a comfortable position while i sleep & it appears once i finally doze off then i have to throw up.. & he is sleep acting like all is okay.. & then he starts in the morning with all the it's just hormonal & your tripping statement. let it pass as if i have choice.. my bottom line is that i cant stand him sleeping so well at night ( it has become a fixation of mines)... weird ! "
Wait a few months until you're having cravings in the middle of the night & you wake him up to get you whatever you fix those cravings & he'll do it too! After all, he's 50% of this little equation that you're carrying around with that's making you have these cravings!! Then you'll get whatever it was you craved & go back to sleep instantly & he's the one that's wide awake!!! Revenge is so sweet!!!
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doohansen
doohansen
3577. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 5:20 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 5:20 PM EST
Hey All, over on Dallas' website there is a place to ask questions of CH for an upcoming interview. I asked if I have been reading the books all wrong or if I had misinterpreted Eric since she supposedly said she didn't get why fans liked him so much.

Anyway, Ask away, you never know, one of our questions might be answered by the author herself!
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ms.starshine
3578. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 6:03 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 6:03 PM EST
"La Leche came out because my 1st wouldn't latch on. They had me all stressed and horrified, but I couldn't get food into her for 4 days! I felt like I was failing myself and my baby. The rural health nurse came out the next day, gave Brynna a bottle and lo and behold she latched on and never stopped breast feeding (never taking a bottle again) until 13 mos when I had to stop because I was preggers with my 2nd. Those who are obsessive about anything should stay away from new moms. We have enough to deal with (sitting on ice packs, freaking about taking that first BM and tearing your stitches, no sleep, hormones etc...) ITM Just do what feels right to you and don't let ANYONE tell you diff. Remember the baby is YOURS so f&^{1}amp; them if they don't agree."
very good advice Doo. Trust yourself ITsall and trust your instincts and don't let anyone (including the nipple Nazi's *** oh that one made me laugh!! Doo) tell you how to be THEIR kind of "perfect". Be yours. Everyone means well, but you can't be trying sixteen different ways to do something. You;ll find what feels right to you and the babe.
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ms.starshine
3579. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 6:05 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 6:05 PM EST
"Hey All, over on Dallas' website there is a place to ask questions of CH for an upcoming interview. I asked if I have been reading the books all wrong or if I had misinterpreted Eric since she supposedly said she didn't get why fans liked him so much.

Anyway, Ask away, you never know, one of our questions might be answered by the author herself!"
great question Doo. I hope she answers it. Between AB and the TB writers, the fanatics for Bill, and now CH chiming in, I'm getting kind of tired of hearing all the Eric bashing too.
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Itsalltoomuch
Itsalltoomuch
3580. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 6:07 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 9:42 PM EST
"Hey All, over on Dallas' website there is a place to ask questions of CH for an upcoming interview. I asked if I have been reading the books all wrong or if I had misinterpreted Eric since she supposedly said she didn't get why fans liked him so much.

Anyway, Ask away, you never know, one of our questions might be answered by the author herself!"
what is this Dallas site? where is this website? did your question get answered? or is it random?
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ms.starshine
3581. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 6:51 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 6:51 PM EST
"what is this wed site? where is this website? did your question get answered? or is it random? "
Its over on Loving TB in Dallas' website -- you can leave a comment or question. I just did it and there are mostly pro Bill comments and questions so far. I don't know when the interview is scheduled but I guess Dallas will pick some questions from posters to ask CH
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Itsalltoomuch
Itsalltoomuch
3582. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 9:24 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 9:24 PM EST
"Wait a few months until you're having cravings in the middle of the night & you wake him up to get you whatever you fix those cravings & he'll do it too! After all, he's 50% of this little equation that you're carrying around with that's making you have these cravings!! Then you'll get whatever it was you craved & go back to sleep instantly & he's the one that's wide awake!!! Revenge is so sweet!!!"
lol ! reveange is sweet :-) i cant wait really * hands in fist because of excitment * ....
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Itsalltoomuch
Itsalltoomuch
3583. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 9:27 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 9:27 PM EST
"Its over on Loving TB in Dallas' website -- you can leave a comment or question. I just did it and there are mostly pro Bill comments and questions so far. I don't know when the interview is scheduled but I guess Dallas will pick some questions from posters to ask CH"
so what is this Dallas site? ppl can chat live or something about the books? ppl can ask questions but thier is no straight forward answer kind of thing?
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Itsalltoomuch
Itsalltoomuch
3584. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 9:29 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 9:29 PM EST
"Only 3 more weeks to go babycakes and it will be smooth sailing! Go ahead and pinch him and kick him in his sleep (he did this to you) and give him some books to read about how to be supportive right now and throughout the pregnancy. It helped me (the revenge part) after I explained, my hubby was ok with it. The books help them understand what you are going through and warn them not to say anything stupid like "boy are you hormonal today" or something else equally offensive. Or, it will explain to him why you just hit him over the head with a cast iron skillet!"
HA -
perfect ( at least i dont feel guilty about poking him in his sleep).. he really sleeps to well as far as i'm concerned..lol !
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doohansen
doohansen
3585. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 4 2009, 10:14 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2009, 10:14 PM EST
"what is this Dallas site? where is this website? did your question get answered? or is it random? "
The website is Loving True Blood in Dallas (I just googled it) she has great stuff every day about TB and lots of teasers/updates etc. Not sure If my questions will get answered, just an interviewer asked for some so I submitted. Scroll down about half the page to find it.
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NCB1
NCB1
3586. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 5 2009, 12:29 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 12:29 AM EST
I wouldn't want to be a telepath either. The closest I'll get is what my daughter tells me. She has Asparger's Syndrome (high functioning autism with lots of social anxiety and some times learning disabilities but at least normal intelligence). She's 20 now and told me one time that she heard and felt every little thing and it was like being clubbed over the head with sensory overload. And that's why she withdraws and shuts down. She just can't handle it.

I think being a telepath would be a thousand times worse. Being bombarded all the time, not only with the sensations but the thoughts of everyone around you unless you could put up walls.

That's what my daughter has had to learn to do. I know not to disturb her if she all of a sudden needs to be alone or put on her iPod and zone out instead of exploding in frustration. Still working on the social graces and likely will be for life.
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hdgcat
hdgcat
3587. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 5 2009, 1:58 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 1:58 AM EST
"oh Cat this one calls for a little Eric PR, LOL. I'm not saying he didn't get this one wrong when he first arrived -- Sookie was funny about how disgusted she was with BOTH guys, Eric and Sam. But the interesting thing is that it worked -- eventually. Pulled her out of her funk and did make her talk about what was troubling her. And Eric then waited outside Merlotte's for her until Sookie got off work; they had a nice conversation -- Eric 'sharing', a conversation between equals, she thinks, "
I'm sorry to cut you ms starshine, d*mn word limits. You realize you pretty much backed up my statement right? LOL!

I'm not saying Eric is a complete dumb*ss and unable to be nuturing. I'm saying its NOT his strength. Look how clueless he is during this scene.

Sam calls him ,as far as we know, for the FIRST time to help him with Sookie . He shows up ,he's blood bonded with this girl which means he can feel her emotional state (which gives him an advantage not shared by human men) and yet he still doesn't get that she wants sympathy and nuturing.

As you stated, Eric is trying to understand this, the guy is nothing if not adaptable,but again ,nuturing is something that doesn't come easily to him. You see it again in DAG ,after the Quinn/Bill fight and in the hospital. He WANTS to take care of her, but he's having trouble understanding how she wants to be taken care of..does this make more sense?

Bill gets points in this area cuz that was something he did very well. There are numerous scenes with B/S of Bill being nuturing/supplying emotional support and empathy. Is it because he's so much younger than Eric or just natural to his character ? Who knows.

I hope this made more sense.
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msbuffy
msbuffy
3588. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 5 2009, 5:30 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 5:35 AM EST
"so what is this Dallas site? ppl can chat live or something about the books? ppl can ask questions but thier is no straight forward answer kind of thing? "
www.lovingtruebloodindallas.com

She used to post here on the Wiki with all of us, but started her own site during/after Season 1 with all of the stuff we talked about & collected. It's grown so big that she manages it mostly full time now & chats with people all over the world - from here, Facebook, Twitter, & elsewhere. She's met CH numerous times & knows her well. She's also met AB & the cast of TB. If you read something from Dallas site, you can pretty much count on it being the truth. She is very careful about revealing anything without checking sources. People used to chat live - I don't know if you still can. Everything you ever wanted to know about the books is on there (we all helped) . There are so many people asking questions that they cannot all be answered every day. You can email her directly, the email address is on the site. There is a call in program on Sunday evenings & the info is on the site as well. The call-in program is great. Sometimes I serve as the reporter ffrom the HBO Wiki.
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ms.starshine
3589. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 5 2009, 10:00 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 10:00 AM EST
"I'm sorry to cut you ms starshine, d*mn word limits. You realize you pretty much backed up my statement right? LOL!


Bill gets points in this area cuz that was something he did very well. There are numerous scenes with B/S of Bill being nuturing/supplying emotional support and empathy. Is it because he's so much younger than Eric or just natural to his character ? Who knows.

I hope this made more sense. "
Well I think we STARTED at the same place Cat but my point was that Eric is making progress on figuring it out, so I (of course) give him points for that. I think it's important that he proves here he CAN obviously learn how to give Sookie this kind of emotional support, whether it comes easily to him or not. Re Bill being better at it ... boy I always hesitate to say anything negative about Bill but... I had a friend once and we were attending a wake and Janie was buzzing around getting all the drinks and food out etc and slipped up and said enthusiastically to us "I LOVE these things!". Well we all just stared at her and she shut up LOL but I think that's kind of like Bill. Part of Bill LOVES it when Sookie is beaten down, injured or scared etc. I think it's part of Bill's personality to want to be the protector type guy, which is not all bad. I think Sookie is -- normally -- a little too strong, too self reliant or independent to match up well with Bill. Bill enjoys Sookie's weakness; Eric enjoys Sookie's strength. That oversimplifies it of course, but that's why I posted earlier that I would love to see Bill have a girlfriend who is more passive than Sookie, who needs and wants more of what he's good at, more of a clinging vine type. The difference to me is that I didn't see Bill getting better at letting go enough of Sookie -- he still hangs out in her woods and watches her etc. I do see Eric getting better at where he was weak with Sookie, the nurturing. Make sense?
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doohansen
doohansen
3590. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 5 2009, 10:46 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 10:46 AM EST
"Well I think we STARTED at the same place Cat but my point was that Eric is making progress on figuring it out, so I (of course) give him points for that. I think it's important that he proves here he CAN obviously learn how to give Sookie this kind of emotional support, whether it comes easily to him or not. Re Bill being better at it ... boy I always hesitate to say anything negative about Bill but... I had a friend once and we were attending a wake and Janie was buzzing around getting all the drinks and food out etc and slipped up and said enthusiastically to us "I LOVE these things!". Well we all just stared at her and she shut up LOL but I think that's kind of like Bill. Part of Bill LOVES it when Sookie is beaten down, injured or scared etc. I think it's part of Bill's personality to want to be the protector type guy, which is not all bad. I think Sookie is -- normally -- a little too strong, too self reliant or independent to match up well with Bill. Bill enjoys Sookie's weakness; Eric enjoys Sookie's strength. That oversimplifies it of course, but that's why I posted earlier that I would love to see Bill have a girlfriend who is more passive than Sookie, who needs and wants more of what he's good at, more of a clinging vine type. The difference to me is that I didn't see Bill getting better at letting go enough of Sookie -- he still hangs out in her woods and watches her etc. I do see Eric getting better at where he was weak with Sookie, the nurturing. Make sense? "
I agree with you 100% Mrs. Starshine. That was well said and that is also how I see both guys. Maybe Bill could hook up with another Vamp for a while, it is rare, but he did it well for about 70 years.
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Itsalltoomuch
Itsalltoomuch
3591. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 5 2009, 11:37 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 11:37 AM EST
"www.lovingtruebloodindallas.com

She used to post here on the Wiki with all of us, but started her own site during/after Season 1 with all of the stuff we talked about & collected. It's grown so big that she manages it mostly full time now & chats with people all over the world - from here, Facebook, Twitter, & elsewhere. She's met CH numerous times & knows her well. She's also met AB & the cast of TB. If you read something from Dallas site, you can pretty much count on it being the truth. She is very careful about revealing anything without checking sources. People used to chat live - I don't know if you still can. Everything you ever wanted to know about the books is on there (we all helped) . There are so many people asking questions that they cannot all be answered every day. You can email her directly, the email address is on the site. There is a call in program on Sunday evenings & the info is on the site as well. The call-in program is great. Sometimes I serve as the reporter ffrom the HBO Wiki."
Thank you,
so this is a trusted site full of great information about the show & the books.. i think i would enjoy that kind of site..
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Itsalltoomuch
Itsalltoomuch
3592. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 5 2009, 11:44 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 11:44 AM EST
"Well I think we STARTED at the same place Cat but my point was that Eric is making progress on figuring it out, so I (of course) give him points for that. I think it's important that he proves here he CAN obviously learn how to give Sookie this kind of emotional support, whether it comes easily to him or not. Re Bill being better at it ... boy I always hesitate to say anything negative about Bill but... I had a friend once and we were attending a wake and Janie was buzzing around getting all the drinks and food out etc and slipped up and said enthusiastically to us "I LOVE these things!". Well we all just stared at her and she shut up LOL but I think that's kind of like Bill. Part of Bill LOVES it when Sookie is beaten down, injured or scared etc. I think it's part of Bill's personality to want to be the protector type guy, which is not all bad. I think Sookie is -- normally -- a little too strong, too self reliant or independent to match up well with Bill. Bill enjoys Sookie's weakness; Eric enjoys Sookie's strength. That oversimplifies it of course, but that's why I posted earlier that I would love to see Bill have a girlfriend who is more passive than Sookie, who needs and wants more of what he's good at, more of a clinging vine type. The difference to me is that I didn't see Bill getting better at letting go enough of Sookie -- he still hangs out in her woods and watches her etc. I do see Eric getting better at where he was weak with Sookie, the nurturing. Make sense? "
well said Star,

Sookie's strongest point is her desire to be independant that is something that she grew into that i noticed.. when you compare DUD to DAG (Sookie is not that Sookie any more). early Sookie really enjoyed that about Bill. early Sookie loved the fact that she was a belongiong "she's Mine" & the jealoues issues .. but by CD Sookie started getting that independant attitude & saying things like she belongs to herself .
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ms.starshine
3593. RE: BOOK 10 Speculation, and theory
Nov 5 2009, 3:17 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 3:17 PM EST
"well said Star,

Sookie's strongest point is her desire to be independant that is something that she grew into that i noticed.. when you compare DUD to DAG (Sookie is not that Sookie any more). early Sookie really enjoyed that about Bill. early Sookie loved the fact that she was a belongiong "she's Mine" & the jealoues issues .. but by CD Sookie started getting that independant attitude & saying things like she belongs to herself ."
good points Itsall! I KNEW you would understand what I was trying to say here because you have posted the same kinds of things -- how Sookie has grown up throughout the books etc. I like how you say it above. Yeah, really true -=- Sookie started off so immature and unsure of herself, and totally inexperienced with guys and dating and the world. 'Crazy Sookie' she thought of herself. And Bill was good for her then. But now after 9 books she " isn't that Sookie anymore" exactly. She has gained in self confidence and independence etc so much. She kind of outgrew Bill when that happened I think. He didn't change so much as Sookie did. She grew INTO Eric as she grew up into a woman not a girl. Hey, one other point a friend brought up today over lunch --kind of cool. How everyone -- Sam, Jason, Tara, Arlene, Alcide, Quinn, and even Calvin etc-- all have said to Sookie for all these books that she should get away from the vamp world because it was so dangerous yadayada she was going to get killed hanging with the vamps, but in Book 9 CH wrote it so that the most dangerous event, the nearest to death Sookie has ever been came from the bad fairies and her own blood being part fairy blood and it was the vamps who SAVED her. I hadn't thought about it that way. But she's right. Darn good thing Sookie didn't listen to 'everyone'. Instead of getting her killed, it was the vamps who saved her life. CH made a point there I think.
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