Discussion: OFFICIAL THREAD: 202 Keep This Party Going

"I have to remind myself of it too! :)

Yes no matter how hard some vamps such as Bill try to be human they aren't. And come to think of it I am one who earlier in this thread is all about how vampires are cruel and manipulative including BILL. I caught that human error should not be compared to the errors of vampires. And I see what you are saying, but just remember though it's a human who thinks up the bad ways of a vampire. "

"Hey doesen't anyone remember that the guy in the basement and a couple of his friends burned out Malcom and the rest of his next last season? Sooooo, he isn't exactly an innocent party here and since the human police doesn't tend to take crimes against vampires seriously who but the Sherrif (Eric) is going to keep his people safe? The guy murdered 3 vampires and got a nasty death penalty. Which for all we know he brought on himself.

If my choice has to be between the vampires and The Foundation of the Sun, I'm with the vampires. The rest of the people or humans I don't think are in all that much danger for the most part. It's not good "business" to be killing off humans willy nilly.
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"no the fact that vampires are theoretically fictatious, and the thought of the vampire was created by a human brain LOL. It's irrelevant so let's forget about it and move. ;) Say that's a nice shirt your wearing today LOL, just kidding. ;)"

"awesome post, it goes along the lines of "you can't teach an old dog new tricks". Everyone is expecting all these vampires to be sqeaky clean model citizens, and to act human. well for one they are NOT human, for two you're right they have been accustomed to being down right nasty and dirty for many centuries. These newer vamps such as Bill it's easier for them to be more civilized, Eric and the older vamps it's harder.

People need to quit Hating and criticizing Eric for being the way he is. It's what he is accustomed too! "

"Thanks hon! When I look at the vampire behavior ,especially the "negative" type behaviors,whats I do is look at it from a biological POV. Vampires are predators,there's no way around that . They've evolved(we assume) after/with humans to live off of us like parasites(there's a technical biology term for them,I've forgotten it). Eric has been a successful predator for over 1000yrs doing things a certain way.....now you have vampires OUT for only a few years ,which for Eric is a blink of an eye...change will be harder for him ...not just due to his age,but due to the fact he has to answer to vampires who are even older and more entrenched in the old ways then he is.

Eric's biggest advantage is that he doesn't look back and he doesn't seem to experience regret or moan about his past decisions ...EVER. You see this in the books especially ,I'm hoping we'll see it in the show too.

Having said this does not mean that I forget what he is which is why I argue alot about his motives and actions with others who seem to assume he has altruistic motives for everything he does. Lafa described himself as survivor first,capitalist second,everything else third...but he could have been describing Eric too and I think Eric picked up on that and relates to Lafayette. "

"very poignant, thanks, BillsO, i enjoyed your post.

why is it anytime anyone tries to go beyond the usual posts of "ew, that was so kewl, i'm so hot for "fill in the blank - Eric, Bill, etc" other posters quell them by responding something like "chill, this is just fantasy."

Spammy babe, for this show to retain the interest of a thinking person, even as "popcorn for smart people", don't the concepts and the background have to track cohesively and make sense within one's worldview?"

"I would describe my self as one who thinks outside the box too. But I guess a place like this is more for fun then deep thinking. But my responses to everyone have been sincere. I'm not here to hate. We can all get along right??
I believe that not having the benefit of reading the books is a hinderence for some of us. It makes it hard to understand how society got to this point where Vamps could come out of the coffin. There has been no back ground of how that all played out. I crave that understanding.
But...I dont want to read the books now, for fear it will cloud my enjoyment of the show....so comp[licated!!!LOL"

"I would describe my self as one who thinks outside the box too. But I guess a place like this is more for fun then deep thinking. But my responses to everyone have been sincere. I'm not here to hate. We can all get along right??
I believe that not having the benefit of reading the books is a hinderence for some of us. It makes it hard to understand how society got to this point where Vamps could come out of the coffin. There has been no back ground of how that all played out. I crave that understanding.
But...I dont want to read the books now, for fear it will cloud my enjoyment of the show....so comp[licated!!!LOL"

"Thanks hon! When I look at the vampire behavior ,especially the "negative" type behaviors,whats I do is look at it from a biological POV. Vampires are predators,there's no way around that . They've evolved(we assume) after/with humans to live off of us like parasites(there's a technical biology term for them,I've forgotten it). Eric has been a successful predator for over 1000yrs doing things a certain way.....now you have vampires OUT for only a few years ,which for Eric is a blink of an eye...change will be harder for him ...not just due to his age,but due to the fact he has to answer to vampires who are even older and more entrenched in the old ways then he is.

Eric's biggest advantage is that he doesn't look back and he doesn't seem to experience regret or moan about his past decisions ...EVER. You see this in the books especially ,I'm hoping we'll see it in the show too.

Having said this does not mean that I forget what he is which is why I argue alot about his motives and actions with others who seem to assume he has altruistic motives for everything he does. Lafa described himself as survivor first,capitalist second,everything else third...but he could have been describing Eric too and I think Eric picked up on that and relates to Lafayette. "

"Myself, I had read all the book prior to the TB series and I find that just the bare bones of the book series and some character names have been included. Therefore, I can enjoy the show for just what it is, an adaptation. As per usual a book has the capacity to "flesh out" (pun intended) the characters motivations and give more background material. But don't think that the books give sooo much more of that. The Charlaine Harris series is a mystery series and follows that format, leaving the reader the opportunity to (hopefully) guess what's going to happen as all mystery series tend to do.

Of course vampires are predators, they are the ultimate uber-predator, as are shifters. Don't let Sam's alter persona as a dog lead you to believe all shifters are like him. And not to belabor a point but so are the humans as well. Jason is a wonderful example of a human predator. He may not kill his prey, he just simply hunts down women. LOL The human trio that burned out Malcom and his nest showed predatory behavior.

Isn't that possibly the point; that each and every species and sub-species displays to some degree a hunting behavior?

Personally, I watch the series for pure enjoyment and not for a civic lesson. It's all fantasy folks. What a great ride! Put your hands in the air around the curves!"