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cechastain
cechastain
Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 1 2008, 1:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 1:24 AM EDT
Okay does anyone else feel that Charlaine Harris has sold out her characters? I mean I love her characters in the books but what Allan Ball has done to them is just awful. I know it's on HBO but what's with the graphic sex? And in the books Sookie is the least sexy acting character so why make her so "cat on a hot tin roof" slinky? In the first episode it even kind of looked like she was trying to entice her brother in one scene! Since when does the Sookie books have graphic sex? Maybe a little skimpy sex but not hard core Laurell K. Hamilton sex. And I'm truthfully not a prude but it ruins the author's original intent. And you can tell Allan Ball is not a southerner. Who wrote those lines with those cheezy old fashioned southern sayings? "Oh my stars!" Outside of a 19th century novel has anyone heard a southerner say that in real life? And then those lines are spoken with that really bad accent and I normally like Anna Paquin but she's like a comic book version of the real character and needs a serious diction coach. They've just plain ruined the story lines. I bought HBO just so I could watch the show because I thought it might be a quality show like the previous HBO series, but I won't be wasting my money anymore unless some drastic changes are made. For those of you that are infatuated with the show, it's pretty obvious you've never read the books so I'll give you some probably unwanted advice - dump the show and read the books. They are hands down better than the show. And to the producer - Mr. Ball - What were you thinking? 1  out of 11 found this valuable. Do you?    
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sookierocks
sookierocks
1. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 1 2008, 1:29 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 1:29 AM EDT
"Okay does anyone else feel that Charlaine Harris has sold out her characters? I mean I love her characters in the books but what Allan Ball has done to them is just awful. I know it's on HBO but what's with the graphic sex? And in the books Sookie is the least sexy acting character so why make her so "cat on a hot tin roof" slinky? In the first episode it even kind of looked like she was trying to entice her brother in one scene! Since when does the Sookie books have graphic sex? Maybe a little skimpy sex but not hard core Laurell K. Hamilton sex. And I'm truthfully not a prude but it ruins the author's original intent. And you can tell Allan Ball is not a southerner. Who wrote those lines with those cheezy old fashioned southern sayings? "Oh my stars!" Outside of a 19th century novel has anyone heard a southerner say that in real life? And then those lines are spoken with that really bad accent and I normally like Anna Paquin but she's like a comic book version of the real character and needs a serious diction coach. They've just plain ruined the story lines. I bought HBO just so I could watch the show because I thought it might be a quality show like the previous HBO series, but I won't be wasting my money anymore unless some drastic changes are made. For those of you that are infatuated with the show, it's pretty obvious you've never read the books so I'll give you some probably unwanted advice - dump the show and read the books. They are hands down better than the show. And to the producer - Mr. Ball - What were you thinking?"
I am sorry you dislike the show. For the record, I personally like Laurell K Hamilton so if you could please refrain from insulting other authors I would appreciate it.

I understand some people are not happy with the turn the show is taking. You have to accept that the show IS different than the books. That changes are going to be made and that sex sales. Some of the stuff could go (ie Jason's boner and such) but sex is a part of the books and seeing Jason's sex life put onscreen is a bit shocking where as the books just describe it.
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sonata+nocturna
sonata+nocturna
2. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 1 2008, 1:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 1:36 AM EDT
"I am sorry you dislike the show. For the record, I personally like Laurell K Hamilton so if you could please refrain from insulting other authors I would appreciate it.

I understand some people are not happy with the turn the show is taking. You have to accept that the show IS different than the books. That changes are going to be made and that sex sales. Some of the stuff could go (ie Jason's boner and such) but sex is a part of the books and seeing Jason's sex life put onscreen is a bit shocking where as the books just describe it. "
I personally love the show, My advice would be not to watch if you do not like it. And I do not mean that as an insult. Just seems that you prefer the books, which of course is your choice.

I believe there is room for both. I can enjoy a book and then see a movie based on a book, and still appreciate the differences in the two. I think the cast is exceptional. I do believe that HBO has a BIG hit on their hands. And we will see the fan base grow as time goes on.
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sookierocks
sookierocks
3. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 1 2008, 1:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 1:39 AM EDT
"I personally love the show, My advice would be not to watch if you do not like it. And I do not mean that as an insult. Just seems that you prefer the books, which of course is your choice.

I believe there is room for both. I can enjoy a book and then see a movie based on a book, and still appreciate the differences in the two. I think the cast is exceptional. I do believe that HBO has a BIG hit on their hands. And we will see the fan base grow as time goes on."
Beautifully put sonota. Also people have to remember that there are people watching that have never read the books. For example in my office two of my coworkers (one man and one an older female) talk to me about the show and how much they LOVE it and they haven't read the books. I think Ball is doing his best to make the show appealing to both groups and I am happy with the result!
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krazy4bill
krazy4bill
4. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 1 2008, 1:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 1:39 AM EDT
It's artistic license.....Ball wouldn't be Ball if he just copied the books perse....
From what i've seen, Bill in the show is much more romantic than the book Bill, so I'm all for fleshing out the sookie/Bill dynamic...
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cechastain
cechastain
5. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 2 2008, 8:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 2 2008, 8:59 PM EDT
For the record, I too love Laurell K. Hamilton and I don't believe I'm insulting her. Her books are HIGHLY graphic that is an undeniable fact. And I and Laurell K. Hamilton both feel that the movie or TV would be able to do justice without it becoming soft porn. I read both Anita Blake and Merry Gentry. I just don't feel that the show is in keeping with the author's original intent. Charlaine Harris has barely a sex scene in her books. And Sookie is not portrayed as some sex kitten. If you're not going to keep to the books intent, don't say you're bringing the books to the screen. 1  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
sookierocks
sookierocks
6. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 2 2008, 11:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 2 2008, 11:17 PM EDT
"For the record, I too love Laurell K. Hamilton and I don't believe I'm insulting her. Her books are HIGHLY graphic that is an undeniable fact. And I and Laurell K. Hamilton both feel that the movie or TV would be able to do justice without it becoming soft porn. I read both Anita Blake and Merry Gentry. I just don't feel that the show is in keeping with the author's original intent. Charlaine Harris has barely a sex scene in her books. And Sookie is not portrayed as some sex kitten. If you're not going to keep to the books intent, don't say you're bringing the books to the screen. "
Actually sex is in several of the books. Not to the extent they take it with Jason but its there. I don't want to list all the places in the books and where because I don't want to spoil the show for non book readers but its pretty much in every book. I think the reason they go so out there with Jason is to shock the audience. If they just talked about it on screen, the viewer wouldn't get a feel for just how lowdown Jason really is. I think the sex scenes on the show are to make you dislike Jason as much as you can.

In regards to Laurell, I am sorry I misunderstood your post. Its just I get so tired of people disrespecting her and her books after Obsidian Butterfly. Its to the point that I pretty much go on the defensive of her when I can. I am worried about this deal she signed to bring Anita to Hollywood.
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Stace34
Stace34
7. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 2 2008, 11:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 2 2008, 11:50 PM EDT
There is no way to explain Jason sexual habits on screen better that showing them. Those that read the books knew he was a player, he liked it rough sometimes, and sometimes there were videos. The show is not told 1st person through Sookie so we had to see it rather that just her saying it.

I try not to compare the books and the show too much. There needs to be some changes because of how a series has to be told. Some characters will become bigger, some will get cut. I think that so far the series has stayed pretty true to the spirit of the first book.

I also have to agree with SookieRocks when she says if you don't like the direction Ball has taken in the show don't watch. There have been series that have been based of books or other shows form the BBC that I don't watch because I prefer the original. It all depends on your point of view.
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AliAnne
AliAnne
8. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 3 2008, 12:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2008, 12:36 AM EDT
"There is no way to explain Jason sexual habits on screen better that showing them. Those that read the books knew he was a player, he liked it rough sometimes, and sometimes there were videos. The show is not told 1st person through Sookie so we had to see it rather that just her saying it.

I try not to compare the books and the show too much. There needs to be some changes because of how a series has to be told. Some characters will become bigger, some will get cut. I think that so far the series has stayed pretty true to the spirit of the first book.

I also have to agree with SookieRocks when she says if you don't like the direction Ball has taken in the show don't watch. There have been series that have been based of books or other shows form the BBC that I don't watch because I prefer the original. It all depends on your point of view."
I, too, felt that too many things were being twisted & bastardized from the books until i realized 1 thing... the books are all from Sookie's point of view. She's not watching Jason going at it with Dawn or see's what ever he's doing when he's not right in front of her, though she may hear about it & relate it to us as readers. I saw episode 1, LOVED IT, and went out & bought the whole series... and finished them around the time that ep 2 was ending. I am hoping certain scenes are sacrificed to the God of Hollywood Screen Writers, but for a series to be told in 13 (i think) episodes, I think sticking to main hard outline & tweaking little details will work.
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sookierocks
sookierocks
9. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 3 2008, 12:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2008, 12:47 AM EDT
"There is no way to explain Jason sexual habits on screen better that showing them. Those that read the books knew he was a player, he liked it rough sometimes, and sometimes there were videos. The show is not told 1st person through Sookie so we had to see it rather that just her saying it.

I try not to compare the books and the show too much. There needs to be some changes because of how a series has to be told. Some characters will become bigger, some will get cut. I think that so far the series has stayed pretty true to the spirit of the first book.

I also have to agree with SookieRocks when she says if you don't like the direction Ball has taken in the show don't watch. There have been series that have been based of books or other shows form the BBC that I don't watch because I prefer the original. It all depends on your point of view."
Per Chance Stace34 would one of those BBC shows be the Orignial Office? I won't watch the US office because no way can it come close to Ricky Gervaise :)

and you said it more eloquently than I did!
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rubyeuropa
rubyeuropa
10. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 3 2008, 1:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2008, 1:43 AM EDT
"For those of you that are infatuated with the show, it's pretty obvious you've never read the books so I'll give you some probably unwanted advice - dump the show and read the books. They are hands down better than the show. And to the producer - Mr. Ball - What were you thinking?"
He's thinking he has a hit on his handss, given the fact HBO gave him the green light for season 2 after episode 2 of the premiere season? <g>. And if you read the messages, many (most?) of the people posting have read the books, or are reading them now, and are quite happy with the show. And Harris herself has given Ball her approval on what he's doing with her characters. So as testaments go, I would think if the author herself has nothing but praise, Ball can't be doing TOO much wrong.

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krazy4bill
krazy4bill
11. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 3 2008, 1:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2008, 1:47 AM EDT
"He's thinking he has a hit on his handss, given the fact HBO gave him the green light for season 2 after episode 2 of the premiere season? <g>. And if you read the messages, many (most?) of the people posting have read the books, or are reading them now, and are quite happy with the show. And Harris herself has given Ball her approval on what he's doing with her characters. So as testaments go, I would think if the author herself has nothing but praise, Ball can't be doing TOO much wrong.

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I actually love seeing Bill/Sookie/Lafayette the way the actors are interpreting them...and there's a lot of added dialogue that really enhances the story..ie..sunlight on your skin...mechanics don't make it less of a miracle, which is another word for magic....etc
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Maharet
Maharet
12. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 3 2008, 1:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2008, 1:52 AM EDT
"Okay does anyone else feel that Charlaine Harris has sold out her characters? I mean I love her characters in the books but what Allan Ball has done to them is just awful. I know it's on HBO but what's with the graphic sex? And in the books Sookie is the least sexy acting character so why make her so "cat on a hot tin roof" slinky? In the first episode it even kind of looked like she was trying to entice her brother in one scene! Since when does the Sookie books have graphic sex? Maybe a little skimpy sex but not hard core Laurell K. Hamilton sex. And I'm truthfully not a prude but it ruins the author's original intent. And you can tell Allan Ball is not a southerner. Who wrote those lines with those cheezy old fashioned southern sayings? "Oh my stars!" Outside of a 19th century novel has anyone heard a southerner say that in real life? And then those lines are spoken with that really bad accent and I normally like Anna Paquin but she's like a comic book version of the real character and needs a serious diction coach. They've just plain ruined the story lines. I bought HBO just so I could watch the show because I thought it might be a quality show like the previous HBO series, but I won't be wasting my money anymore unless some drastic changes are made. For those of you that are infatuated with the show, it's pretty obvious you've never read the books so I'll give you some probably unwanted advice - dump the show and read the books. They are hands down better than the show. And to the producer - Mr. Ball - What were you thinking?"
Read the books, love them, they ARE rather graphic (though with Sookie scenes, not Jason scenes, but that is because the POV is 1st person on the books... you can't do that in film, at least not easily)....

Sookie would say "oh my stars" because she is very anti-swearing. It sounds silly to me (hey, I'm from Jersey) but it makes sense to me with her character.

I am infatuated with the show, and I have read all the books. I like and enjoy both. Yes there are differences, but it is staying truer to the books than about 90% of movies/shows that are made from books. I am a HUGE Stephen King fan... There are only 2 movies that did his books justice, and neither of them are horror. It's like filmmakers are afraid to really delve into a good horror story unless its some crap like Saw.

Have some unwanted advice yourself...If you don't like it, don't watch it. Why did you join a fansite (and create a profile, and upload a picture) if you hate it that much?
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slayer007
slayer007
13. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 3 2008, 4:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2008, 4:32 AM EDT
I have read all the books and i love them. It was hard at first to see the show cuz i wanted it to b just let the books, but not t.v show or movie can let u in the heads and let u read what a person is feeling as books can do.. so i will have to try to see it as it was met to be a new show from a book ! not the book itself.. hey the show has a lot of sex but hey it on hbo. so far i like it people who have read the books will need time to ajust but it is good and will be a big hit!!!!!!! 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
IVANT2
IVANT2
14. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 3 2008, 11:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2008, 11:01 AM EDT
Yeah, what everyone else said! Save for the original poster.

If you have On Demand there are 5 different shorts on the making of Tru Blood...
Alan Ball, some of the cast, tec.. and in there Charlaine Harris says herself, to para-phrase..'Alan Ball will do the books justice'

So, she's happy with the series. Me too. And I'm very into the books, as well!
Think outside of the box, it's quite liberating!!
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billcanbiteme
billcanbiteme
15. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 3 2008, 11:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2008, 11:13 AM EDT
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Have some unwanted advice yourself...If you don't like it, don't watch it. Why did you join a fansite (and create a profile, and upload a picture) if you hate it that much? "
Here, here. Why bother?
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hot4bill
hot4bill
16. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 3 2008, 12:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2008, 12:26 PM EDT
"It's artistic license.....Ball wouldn't be Ball if he just copied the books perse....
From what i've seen, Bill in the show is much more romantic than the book Bill, so I'm all for fleshing out the sookie/Bill dynamic...
"
Thank you! It is absolutely artistic license! the series is lightly based on the book..........which makes it even more fun, you never know what can happen next........i love the Sookie/Bill chemistry ...........bring on the lust..........as far as the accents go, they are really very good, I grew up in Shreveport and for the most part I believe they have nailed it...........the old fashioned talk such as "oh my stars" is not as uncommon as you may think.........
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bilookie
17. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 9 2008, 10:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2008, 10:55 PM EDT
"Okay does anyone else feel that Charlaine Harris has sold out her characters? I mean I love her characters in the books but what Allan Ball has done to them is just awful. I know it's on HBO but what's with the graphic sex? And in the books Sookie is the least sexy acting character so why make her so "cat on a hot tin roof" slinky? In the first episode it even kind of looked like she was trying to entice her brother in one scene! Since when does the Sookie books have graphic sex? Maybe a little skimpy sex but not hard core Laurell K. Hamilton sex. And I'm truthfully not a prude but it ruins the author's original intent. And you can tell Allan Ball is not a southerner. Who wrote those lines with those cheezy old fashioned southern sayings? "Oh my stars!" Outside of a 19th century novel has anyone heard a southerner say that in real life? And then those lines are spoken with that really bad accent and I normally like Anna Paquin but she's like a comic book version of the real character and needs a serious diction coach. They've just plain ruined the story lines. I bought HBO just so I could watch the show because I thought it might be a quality show like the previous HBO series, but I won't be wasting my money anymore unless some drastic changes are made. For those of you that are infatuated with the show, it's pretty obvious you've never read the books so I'll give you some probably unwanted advice - dump the show and read the books. They are hands down better than the show. And to the producer - Mr. Ball - What were you thinking?"
I actually did not like the books so much. I think the show is way better, and as far as I see it, Alan has done a great job.
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rclaurel
rclaurel
18. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 9 2008, 11:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2008, 11:11 PM EDT
I have read the books and love the show. And what ever way allan takes the show that will be great to. he said in a statment he was going to follow the first book and then let it take off on its own. so he probally will just take pieces from each book, we might not see all the charaters from charlaine harris novels. Do you find this valuable?    
rclaurel
rclaurel
19. RE: Why did Charlaine allow this?
Oct 9 2008, 11:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2008, 11:13 PM EDT
"I have read the books and love the show. And what ever way allan takes the show that will be great to. he said in a statment he was going to follow the first book and then let it take off on its own. so he probally will just take pieces from each book, we might not see all the charaters from charlaine harris novels."
I also read that in the book eric kills longshawdow in TB bill will kill him.
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